{"id":8586,"date":"2023-09-30T09:11:46","date_gmt":"2023-09-30T09:11:46","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/sfdumitru.org\/?p=8586"},"modified":"2025-10-07T16:23:13","modified_gmt":"2025-10-07T16:23:13","slug":"experience-should-come-first-not-theologizing","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/sfdumitru.org\/ro\/2023\/09\/experience-should-come-first-not-theologizing\/","title":{"rendered":"Tr\u0103irea trebuie s\u0103 fie pe primul loc, nu teologhisirea"},"content":{"rendered":"<div data-elementor-type=\"wp-post\" data-elementor-id=\"8586\" class=\"elementor elementor-8586\" data-elementor-settings=\"[]\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-inner\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-section-wrap\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-6963814 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"6963814\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-row\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-ebceeb0\" data-id=\"ebceeb0\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-1fca733 elementor-widget elementor-widget-image\" data-id=\"1fca733\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"image.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-image\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"800\" height=\"450\" src=\"https:\/\/sfdumitru.org\/wordpress\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/10\/12_1-800x450.jpg\" class=\"attachment-ocean-thumb-ml size-ocean-thumb-ml\" alt=\"\" \/>\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t<section class=\"elementor-section elementor-top-section elementor-element elementor-element-eb6e8f6 elementor-section-boxed elementor-section-height-default elementor-section-height-default\" data-id=\"eb6e8f6\" data-element_type=\"section\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-container elementor-column-gap-default\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-row\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column elementor-col-100 elementor-top-column elementor-element elementor-element-fdfe80b\" data-id=\"fdfe80b\" data-element_type=\"column\">\n\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-column-wrap elementor-element-populated\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-wrap\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-element elementor-element-13f2120 elementor-widget elementor-widget-text-editor\" data-id=\"13f2120\" data-element_type=\"widget\" data-widget_type=\"text-editor.default\">\n\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-widget-container\">\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<div class=\"elementor-text-editor elementor-clearfix\">\n\t\t\t\t\t<p>\u00cen Duminica a 21-a dup\u0103 Rusalii s-a citit Apostolul din Epistola c\u0103tre Tit a Sf\u00e2ntului Apostol Pavel: \u201eFiule Tit, vrednic de crezare este cuv\u00e2ntul \u0219i voiesc s\u0103 adevere\u0219ti acestea cu t\u0103rie, pentru ca aceia care au crezut \u00een Dumnezeu s\u0103 aib\u0103 grij\u0103 s\u0103 fie \u00een frunte la fapte bune. C\u0103 acestea sunt cele bune \u0219i de folos oamenilor. Iar de \u00eentreb\u0103rile nebune\u0219ti \u0219i de \u00een\u0219ir\u0103ri de neamuri \u0219i de certuri \u0219i de sf\u0103dirile pentru lege, fere\u0219te-te, c\u0103ci sunt nefolositoare \u0219i de\u0219arte. De omul eretic, dup\u0103 \u00eent\u00e2ia \u0219i a doua mustrare, dep\u0103rteaz\u0103-te, \u0219tiind c\u0103 unul ca acesta s-a ab\u0103tut \u0219i a c\u0103zut \u00een p\u0103cat, fiind singur de sine os\u00e2ndit\u201d (3, 8-11).<\/p>\n<p>A\u0219adar, grija noastr\u0103, a celor care credem \u00een Dumnezeu, trebuie s\u0103 fie s\u0103 fim \u00een frunte la fapte bune. Aceasta ne este cel mai de folos. Sigur, avem \u0219i teologi mari, dar la noi tr\u0103irea trebuie s\u0103 fie pe primul loc, nu cuno\u0219tin\u021bele. S\u0103 fim <em>tr\u0103itori<\/em>, a\u0219a cum \u00eei pl\u0103cea p\u0103rintelui Arsenie Papacioc s\u0103 zic\u0103. Aceasta este de baz\u0103, aceasta trebuie s\u0103 fie grija noastr\u0103 principal\u0103. O avem exemplul cel mai bun pe Maica Domnului, care nu se ceart\u0103. Ea rar vorbe\u0219te, cum s\u0103 se mai \u0219i certe?! P\u0103rin\u021bii Patericului la fel erau. Abia vorbeau, \u0219i erau mari cu via\u021ba, deci ar fi avut ce s\u0103 vorbeasc\u0103. La Avva Pimen au venit odat\u0103 ni\u0219te eretici \u0219i vorbeau \u00eempotriva Sf\u00e2ntului Atanasie al Alexandriei. Iar b\u0103tr\u00e2nul t\u0103c\u00e2nd, l-a chemat pe ucenic \u0219i i-a zis: \u201epune masa \u0219i f\u0103-i s\u0103 m\u0103n\u00e2nce \u0219i-i trimite cu pace\u201d. Nu se ceart\u0103.<\/p>\n<p>\u00cen general, femeile nu se ceart\u0103 pentru credin\u021b\u0103, mai mult b\u0103rba\u021bii o fac. Femeile au treab\u0103, s\u0103 se jertfeasc\u0103, s\u0103 iubeasc\u0103... Acesta este cel mai important pentru noi. Cum reu\u0219im s\u0103 fim \u00een frunte la fapte bune. P\u0103rintele Arsenie Papacioc a fost un model de tr\u0103itor. El nu vorbea. Nu se certa, nu intra \u00een argumente. C\u00e2t am stat \u0219i eu pe l\u00e2ng\u0103 el, vreo 10-11 ani, o singur\u0103 dat\u0103 am avut o disput\u0103. \u00cen sensul c\u0103 era papa Ioan Paul al II-lea venit \u00een Rom\u00e2nia, iar un profesor de la noi, de la Facultatea de Matematic\u0103, era extrem de entuziasmat de venirea lui. Iar eu c\u00e2nd m-am dus la spovedit la p\u0103rintele Arsenie, l-am auzit spun\u00e2nd, \u201eei, a mai venit \u0219i papa \u0103sta pe la noi s\u0103 ne mai \u00eencurce pe aici.\u201d Iar eu \u00eencercam s\u0103 \u00eei spun c\u0103 poate este bine c\u0103 a venit \u0219i alte argumente. La care p\u0103rintele \u00eemi r\u0103spunde scurt, \u201ebine, m\u0103i, dac\u0103 vrei s\u0103 fii f\u0103r\u0103 o ureche, fii catolic.\u201d Deci nu a intrat \u00een nu \u0219tiu ce discu\u021bii.<\/p>\n<p>\u00cen general, c\u00e2nd tr\u0103ie\u0219ti credin\u021ba, nu te preocup\u0103 disputele. Dar p\u0103rintele Arsenie vorbea prin ce era. Ca t\u00e2n\u0103r plin de \u00eentreb\u0103ri \u0219i \u00eendoieli cum eram atunci, mergeam s\u0103 vorbesc cu el. Dar toate se topeau c\u00e2nd \u00eel vedeam pe el. Nu spunea nimic. Nu \u00ee\u021bi trebuia s\u0103 mai \u0219tii despre nimic, te uitai la el \u0219i toate picau. \u00cen el era o dovad\u0103 mult mai tare c\u0103 Dumnezeu exist\u0103, dec\u00e2t toate argumentele care se puteau aduce. \u00cen el era un foc at\u00e2t de mare \u0219i de puternic, \u00eenc\u00e2t nu mai era nevoie de argumente. La fel mamele sau bunicile noastre. Ele nu \u00ee\u021bi explic\u0103 despre cum este sau nu este Dumnezeu, dar prin tr\u0103irea lor, ele \u00ee\u021bi comunic\u0103 c\u0103 El exist\u0103. Pentru c\u0103 m\u0103 uit la ele \u0219i v\u0103d c\u00e2t\u0103 credin\u021b\u0103 au, c\u00e2t\u0103 jertf\u0103, c\u00e2t\u0103 iubire \u0219i bun\u0103tate, \u0219i a\u0219a \u00cel v\u0103d pe El. Toate acestea vorbesc sufletului. Pentru c\u0103 da, mintea trebuie s\u0103 \u00een\u021beleag\u0103 \u0219i ea, dar inima este cea care trebuie mai \u00eent\u00e2i convins\u0103. Iar inima vede, pentru c\u0103 are ochi. Inima vede, detecteaz\u0103 harul. \u0218i \u00cel vede pe Dumnezeu \u00eentr-un om sau \u00een altul, \u00een oamenii care au harul lui Dumnezeu. Pentru c\u0103 \u00een ei inima \u00cel vede pe Dumnezeu. \u00cen Rom\u00e2nia erau mul\u021bi. T\u00e2rziu ne d\u0103m seama c\u0103 L-am v\u0103zut pe Dumnezeu \u00een ei. Mai t\u00e2rziu \u00een via\u021b\u0103 c\u0103ut\u0103m \u0219i argumente, \u0219i le g\u0103sim. Problema este s\u0103 g\u0103sim flac\u0103r\u0103, har, pe undeva. Aici este problema. C\u0103 nu mai avem oameni care s\u0103 ard\u0103. Degeaba vorbim. Trebuie s\u0103 vedem. De aceea, cel mai important nu este s\u0103 ne cert\u0103m pentru dogme. Cel mai important este s\u0103 tr\u0103im.<\/p>\n<p>Acesta este \u0219i r\u0103spunsul pentru p\u0103rin\u021bii care vin \u00eengrijora\u021bi pentru copiii lor, care nu mai g\u0103sesc drumul drept: Haide\u021bi s\u0103 muncim pentru Dumnezeu, s\u0103 asud\u0103m pentru El a\u0219a cum o facem pentru altele ale lumii acesteia. Atunci vor vedea copiii \u00een noi c\u0103 Dumnezeu exist\u0103. Pentru c\u0103 de aceea, nu cred nici ei. Cum era p\u0103rintele Arsenie, care 60 ani i-a dedicat lui Dumnezeu, a \u0219i suferit pentru Dumnezeu. Normal c\u0103 \u00cel sim\u021beai pe Dumnezeu \u00een el. La fel \u0219i noi. Dac\u0103 am arde, dac\u0103 am avea faptele, am convinge mai mult dec\u00e2t prin alte metode. Nu ar mai fi nevoie de cuvinte. Cum spunea Gheron Iosif, \u201ecel mai mare p\u0103cat al zilelor noastre nu este m\u00e2ndria, ci este lenea.\u201d Noi nu mai tr\u0103im, nu mai muncim pentru cele ale lui Dumnezeu. Acesta este p\u0103catul zilelor noastre.<\/p>\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t<\/section>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>\n\t\t\t\t\t<\/div>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>On the 21st Sunday after Pentecost, we read from Saint Paul\u2019s Epistle to Titus: \u201cChild Titus, this is a faithful saying, and these things I want you to affirm constantly, that those who have believed in God should be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable to men. But avoid foolish [&hellip;]<\/p>","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"spay_email":"","footnotes":""},"categories":[82],"tags":[81],"class_list":["post-8586","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-icon-from-within-sept-oct-23","tag-epistle","entry"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/sfdumitru.org\/ro\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8586","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/sfdumitru.org\/ro\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/sfdumitru.org\/ro\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sfdumitru.org\/ro\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sfdumitru.org\/ro\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=8586"}],"version-history":[{"count":4,"href":"https:\/\/sfdumitru.org\/ro\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8586\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":8590,"href":"https:\/\/sfdumitru.org\/ro\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/8586\/revisions\/8590"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/sfdumitru.org\/ro\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=8586"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sfdumitru.org\/ro\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=8586"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/sfdumitru.org\/ro\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=8586"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}